tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1977310098529084891.post6042234691480370361..comments2024-02-27T02:19:19.667-08:00Comments on rethinking history: Rating Generals Marshall and DillNigel Davieshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13176570029569275055noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1977310098529084891.post-2506843164925749642023-02-06T08:56:15.403-08:002023-02-06T08:56:15.403-08:00tipobet
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in the West, Brooke held back Allied...Dear Domico,<br /><br />in the West, Brooke held back Allied excesses of enthusiasm until his well thought out strategy had set up a situation where victory was possible. He did this against the best efforts of Churchill, Roosevelt and Marshall. To mid 1943, his strategy was followed, and it won the war.<br /><br />By 1944 I can't say anyone's strategy was being followed. The pre-agreed invasion of France happened, but with no clear plan about how operations would be managed, what the military goals would be, or what political outcome was desired. <br /><br />It is notable for instance that Italy ended the war as part of the West after surrendering in 1943, and Greece only because the British went in despite Marshall's opposition. The mess that became a the Iron Curtain, was because no one's well thought out strategy was being followed post 1943.<br /><br />The East is worse. If ABDA had a strategy it is hard to see. After that the war against Japan is just divided fiefdoms that rarely co-operate, and certainly don't co-ordinate very well. What MacArthur was doing in the Philippines, or Stillwell in Burma and China; had to do with Nimitz's or Mountbatten's campaigns, is hard to fathom. More energy and resources were wasted here to even less effect, and the post war Communist Domino movement is even more unforgivable than the Iron Curtain.<br /><br />If MacArthurs desire to liberate Philippines was a thought out part of Allied strategy, then the British should have been liberating Malaya and the East Indies, not send a fleet to help bomb Japan.<br /><br />If the goal was to defeat Japan as fast as possible, then clean up later: then Malaya and MacArthur's Philippines operation should presumably both have been left to latter.<br /><br />What the goal was with China, and where anyone expected China to finish up, I have never really been able to work out at all.Nigel Davieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13176570029569275055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1977310098529084891.post-66246216185553844682016-02-13T06:25:24.850-08:002016-02-13T06:25:24.850-08:00Dear Nigel Davies
It's been a delight to have ...Dear Nigel Davies<br />It's been a delight to have found your comments. Good show. I wonder if I could presume to suggest you one or two topics. The first is, who was running Allied strategy in World War II? As far as I can tell, leaving aside the War in the East (Russia) your perspective is that the core steering of Churchill/Brooke was being deflected by Roosevelt/Marshall until those in actual charge started to muddle thru, often despite their shortcomings or misplacement. Second, I yearn for the follow throughs of some of your what ifs, particularly of a 1944 Western Europe campaign or, implicit, I will admit, what would have been a more effective command structure in the Pacific.<br />Keep up the good work and all that kind of thing.<br />Cheers,<br /><br />Domício.<br />PS. I am not much into subscribing and such, but will come back. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12614307915799154709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1977310098529084891.post-59601689081725711062016-01-30T17:28:27.941-08:002016-01-30T17:28:27.941-08:00Dear Beobachter,
actually there was quite a bit of...Dear Beobachter,<br />actually there was quite a bit of talent available, but far too often it was overlooked - Hobart - left in inactive roles - Paget - sacked for stupid reasons - Patton - or promoted too fast to cope - Eisenhower or Ritchie.<br /><br />In fact the problem was often bad picks by the higher ups... and this is my main complaint about Dill and Marshall, who far too often backed the wrong horse.Nigel Davieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13176570029569275055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1977310098529084891.post-461808746052190552016-01-10T12:29:35.049-08:002016-01-10T12:29:35.049-08:00Eisenhower was indeed a 5 star bureaucrat. Can'...Eisenhower was indeed a 5 star bureaucrat. Can't say there was much talent, but mainly grade C competence in all the Allied commanders.Beobachterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12214004137753722458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1977310098529084891.post-993199214993634782016-01-03T20:03:45.437-08:002016-01-03T20:03:45.437-08:00Happy to see a post from you. Love reading your st...Happy to see a post from you. Love reading your stuff.BWBandyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15435259893321037788noreply@blogger.com